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2 7 Later Achaemenid Persian

Page history last edited by Rob Brennan 12 years, 6 months ago


DBMM v2

400AP, 336BC led by Arses(Artaxerses iv) by Gordon Harrow

WHITE: 8 Irg Bge(i) army baggage - 8ME
RED: CinC Reg Cv(o); 10 Irg Cv(o);8 Irg Lh(o) - 24Me
Blue: Sub Gen Reg Cv(o); 3 Reg Ps(s); 2 Reg Ps(o); 4 Reg Ax(o)court takabara; 2 Irg Ax(o); 6 Irg Ps(o) persian archers can support Ax - 14ME.
GREEN: Sub Gen reg Cv(o);  2 Kinsmen Reg Cv(o); 8 Levy Irg Hd(o) - 12ME
Yellow:  Greek Sub Gen Reg Cv(i); 18 Hoplites Reg Sp(o); 2 Guard Infantry Reg Sp(s) - 28ME.

scouting stratagem

400AP, King of Kings, c335BC by Rob Brennan

c1: 1xRCvO CnC, 3xICvS, 4xICvO, 4xILHO, 4xIPsS, 2xIPsO, 2xIAxO - 24ME

c2: 1xRCvO SG, 10x RSpI, 2xRSpS, 3xRPsS,2xRPsO, 2xILHF, 7xIHdO - 28ME

c3: 1xRCvO SG, 10x RSpI, 3xIKnI, 2xILHO, 6xIHdO - 28ME

c4: 1xRCvO SG, 1xRCvO, 3xILHO - 9ME

c5: 7xIBgI - 7ME

This list can float...but can it sting? I am still not sure. 

 

DBMM v1

400AP, Inert by Steve Rathgay

Inert LAP

 

1 Command 4 Cv S, 4 Kn I, 6 Cv O, some Ax + Ps and LH O, Pharnabazus in charge

1 Command 20 Sp O, 1 Ps O, 2 Hde , 4 Exp (I know, giving the Exp to Conon to

look after is ahistorical, but Sp need protecting)

1 Command 3 Reg Ps S, 2 LH O (Araios)

1 Ally (Tissaphernes) 4 Cv O, 4 Ax O, 4 Ps O, 2 Hde O, 1Bge

 

Baggage - 6 Bge F

 

400AP, Darius III at Gaugamela 331BC, DBMM Lists by Rob Brennan

c1: Inert R CvO Chariot CnC, 7x I CvO, 6x I LHF, 4x R AxO, 3 x R PsS,

2x I HdO, 1x I ElO - 27.5ME

c2: R CvO SG, 4x I CvO, 7x I LHO, 6x I AxO, 10x I PsO, 2x R ExpO - 27ME

c3 R CvO SG, 4x I CvO, 10x R SpO, 2x RSpS, 2x I AxO, 2x R ExpO - 27ME

c4: R CvO SG, 4x I LHF - 12ME

c5: 8x I BgeI - 4ME

This was a bit of a mess. In the past I had successfully used both an Inert LAP and more recently a non-Inert one.

I was wary of the 2ME CvS/KnI in the Inert version I had used before and the brittleness/lack of punch of the

non-inert version with 4 reg commands. Hence for the EIC I tried to combine the 2 structures so went for

Inert but without the CvS and with lots of LH (very useful when you have 4 non-inert reg dice)..oh-oh.

This depended on PIPs to do stuff as it didn't have the troops for frontal assaults... but of course being

inert and mainly non-reg troops (so the SG's PIPs weren't so useful) it didn't really have the PIPs to

apply the troops. Standard PIP allocation is c1, c2, c3, c4, for some games where the Sp are likely to be

more important I swapped the order of c2 and c3.

 

My recommendation: do not use this list, if you want to be Inert then instead I recommend using 1 command of CvS/El/filler, 1 command of Sp/Exp (as above), a micro command and a 4th command of maybe CvO/LH.

 

400AP, 3rd at Celtic Championship 09, DBMM Lists by Rob Brennan

c1: 1xRCvO CnC, 6xI CvO, 5x I LHF, 2x R AxO, 3x R PsS, 2x R PsO, 1x I HdO - 24ME

c2: 1xRCvO SG, 2x R ExpO, 3xI CvO, 7x I LHO, 2x I AxO, 10x I PsO - 24ME

c3: 1xRCvO SG, 3xI CvO, 8x R SpO, 2x R SpS, 2x I HdO - 24ME

c4: 1xRCvO, 2x R ExpO, 2x I LHF - 10 ME

c5: 8x I BgeI - 4ME

 

400AP, Arses, DBMM Lists by Gordon Harrow

CinC R Cv(o)

Nobles Etc Irg Kn(i) 6

Satrapal Guard R Kn(i) 2

Sub R Cv(o)

Cavalry Irg Cv(o) 10

Massagatae Irg Cv(s) 2

Skirmisher Irg Ps(o) 1

Sub R Cv(o)

Arachosian Irg Lh(o) 8

Scythian Irg Lh(f) 8

Sub R Cv(i){Pip Dump}

Chariots R Exp(o) 4

Javelinmen R Ps(s) 2

Archers R Ps(o) 2

Army Baggage

Irg Bge(f) 8

Stratagems

Concealed Command

Exaggerated Command

1. 400AP, Darius, Draft DBMM lists by PETER HAINES

Command 1 - subgen RCv(O), 4 ICv(O), 2 IKn(I), 10 ILh(O) (24Me)

 Command 2 - subgen RCv(O), 2 RKn(I), 2 RCv(O) (12Me)

 Command 3 - subgen RSp(O), 18 RSp(O) (24Me)

 Command 4 - Inert C-i-C RCv(O), 4 ICv(O), 6 I Cv(I), 4 R Exp(O), 10 I Lh(F), 2 I Ax(O), 6 I Ps(O) (30Me)

 Camp - 4 IBge(O) (2Me)

 Army (92Me)

 

2. 400AP, Darius III, Draft DBMM lists by Steve Rathgay

 

Army List below: ME

CinC 1 4

Persian Cv 8 8

Massagetae 4 8

Bactrians 4 8

Colonists 6 6

Arachos 6 6

Tak 1 0.5

Arch 1 0.5

Elephants 1 2

Chariots 2 0

Levy 4 2

Scyth LH 1 1

Baggage 0 3

 

Elements 31 49

 

SG 1 4

Sat Guard 2 4

Kinsmen 2 4

Tak 6 3

Archers 6 3

Levy 6 3

Chariots 1 0

 

Baggage 0 3

 

Elements 24 24

 

Greek SG 1 4

Hoplites 5 5

Guard Inf 2 4

Court Tak 2 1

Artillery 1 1

Chariots 1 0

Levy 3 1.5

Baggage 3

Elements 15 19.5

3. 400AP, DBM Lists by Steve Rathgay

CinC Cv O, 6 Kn I, 6 Cv O, 6 Cv I, 4 LH O, 4 Hd O,2 Ps O, Inert CinC,

Unusual troops and Feigned Flight Stratagem – waste of 5AP

incidentally. 35 ME

 Disheartened 9, Broken 12

 

SG (Greek) Sp O, 17 Sp O, 1 Ps O, 6 Cv I,  Disheartened 7, Broken, 9.5

 

SG Cv O, 4 x Exp O, 2 x LH O, Disheartened 2,. Broken 3.

 

Lykian Ally. 2 Cv O, 9 Ax O, 3 Ps O, 4 Bd F, 16 ME Disheartened 4.5

Broken 5.5

 

 

Am I the only one who has reservations about the Kinsmen "Royal Guards" being in any command other than the king of Kings?  I have noted that most lists have them in a mere SG's command.  Come on list checkers!

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