DBMM V2 500AP, 550 AD by Greg Mann + Shamus 400AP, 530AD by Adrian Coombs-Hoar by Doug Melville DBMM V1 400AP, DBMM lists by Lorenzo Mele 400AP by PETER HAINES 400AP, Irr version, DBMM lists by Doug Melville 400AP, DBMM Lists, 2nd Place Warfare 08 by Ray Briggs 400AP, Draft DBMM Lists by Gary Barr 400AP, 3rd Place Cancon '08, DBM Lists by Doug Melville  400AP, DBM Lists by Peter Haines

DBMM V2

500AP, 550 AD by Greg Mann + Shamus

CinC Reg Cv(S), 8 x Reg Cv(S), 2 x Irr El (O), 2 x Irr LH(F). 30 ME
Sub Reg Cv(S), 9 x Reg Cv(S), 2 x Irr El (O). 30 ME
Sub Reg Cv(S), 3 x Reg Cv(S), 4 x Irr LH(F). 18 ME
Alan ally Irr LH(S), 12 x Irr LH(S), 1 x Irr Ps(O), 2 x Irr Bge(F). 18.5 ME
Train 6 x Rge Bge(F). 12 ME
Scouting, Feigned flight.

The basic plan is to pile the 2 big Cv commands down one flanks , support with
the elephants and skirmish elsewhere with the little commands. Terrain will be a
smallish 2 FE gentle hill.

400AP, 530AD by Adrian Coombs-Hoar

chose to model my force on an all mounted army and my list was as follows-

C-in-C Irreg Cv(S)
Asavaran Irreg Cv(S) x 11

Sub-Gen Irreg Cv(S)
Asavaran Irreg Cv(S) x 11
Nomad Horse Archers Irreg Lh(F) X 4

Sub-Gen Irreg Cv(S)
Asavaran Irreg Cv(S) x 11
Nomad Horse Archers Irreg Lh(F) X 4

Baggage Irreg Bge(F) x 6

 

by Doug Melville

1       CinC    Irr     Kn(X)
6       Upgraded Nobles Irr     Kn(X)
4       Nobles  Irr     Cv(S)
2       Horse Archers   Irr     LH(F)

Command B               Type1   Sub
generals        Irr     Cv(S)
11      Nobles  Irr     Cv(S)

Command C               Type1   Sub
generals        Irr     Cv(S)
3       Nobles  Irr     Cv(S)
6       Horse Archers   Irr     LH(F)
4       Elephants       Irr     El(O)
3       Daylami Irr     Ax(S)

Stratagems: Scouting

DBMM V1

400AP, DBMM lists by Lorenzo Mele



C1 CiC ICvS 7ICvS 4ILhF- 24ME

C2 SG ICvS 5IKnX 4IPsO 4IHdO 2ILhF 4ICvS- 30ME

C3 SG ICvS 5IElO 4IPsO 4IHdO 2ILhF 4ICvS- 30ME

C4 6BgF- 6ME

a 5AP stratagem (scout)

 

The idea is to stay away from any kind of terrain, 6 IAxS are not enough to contest one if defended with determination, and second period has many armies with better terrain troops.

The psiloi are there just as defence from enemy elephants and as mobile reserve to provide overlaps and flank protection where needed.

The idea is to have shock troops in 2 different corps to be more flexible in deployment. I have tried to mass KnX and elephant in the same command but the risk is that a competent opponent can avoid it and this army rely on frontal shock.

As terrain of choice, in attack I would always put down a river.

I considered also to buy ambush, to have 8ICvS deployed in flank sector.

The main problem of this composition is the protection from envelopment.

I would use LhF and Ps to cover the flanks, with CiC on the open flank, but low pips can really hurt.

Sassanid is interesting for has a unique composition in period and can be organized in many different ways.

 

400AP by PETER HAINES

 

> Last one I tested with under 2.0 was as follows - I am not convinced by bge for Irr armies, can get to a decent Me score without, and prefer not to have to react to speculative wide sweeps.

 

> C1 - Ag ILh(S), 8 ILh(S) - 12Me

> C2 - C-i-C ICv(S), 1 ICv(S), 4 IKn(X), 3 IEl(O), 8 IHd(O) - 24Me

> C3 - Sg ICv(S), 10 ICv(S) - 24Me

> C4 - Sg ICv(S), 5 ICv(S), 6 IAx(S), 8 IPs(O) - 24Me

> Army 84Me

>

> I don't regard this as an absolute killer but its a very tidy little army that will be reasonably serious in its time period.

400AP, Irr version, DBMM lists by Doug Melville

Army list was:

CnC Kn(X)

6 Kn(X)

3 El(O)

2 Cv(S)

2 LH(F) (scouts)

Sub Cv(S)

11 Cv(S)

1 El(O)

Sub Cv(S)

5 Cv(S)

6 LH(F)

Stratagems, scouting, feigned flight, exaggerating army size (used to make

command 3 look bigger)

400AP, DBMM Lists, 2nd Place Warfare 08 by Ray Briggs

Red

Cv(S) CinC, 6 Cv(S), 6LH(F)

Blue

Cv(S) Gen, 10Cv(S)

Green

Cv(S) Gen, 7Cv(S), 4 Ax(S)

Hun Allies

Cv(O) Gen, 13 LH(S)

 

All Irr

 

400AP, Draft DBMM Lists by Gary Barr

 

CiC rCvs + 10 rCvs

 

SG rCvS + 8 rCvS

 

SG rCvS + 2 rCvS + 2 ElO + 2 iPsO + 4 iAxS + 9 HdO

 

Nomad AG iCvO + 4 iLhO + 1 iLhI

 

Army baggage 2 rBgF + 2 rBgO in camp with 6 TF

 

400AP, 3rd Place Cancon '08, DBM Lists by Doug Melville 

Command 1

 

1 x Reg Cv(S) C-in-C

9 x Reg Cv (S)

25 ME

 

Command 2

 

1 x Reg Cv (S) Sub

6 x Reg Cv (S)

3 x Irr El (O)

25 ME

 

Command 3

 

1 x Reg Cv (S) Sub

8 x Reg Cv (S)

2 x Irr LH (F)

25 ME

 

Command 4 (Army Baggage)

 

6 x Reg Bg(O) (comp rules allowed Reg Bg if Reg C-in-C)

6 x TF s

3 ME

 

400AP, DBM Lists by Peter Haines

all irregular

Command 1 – 6 Bge(I)

Command 2 – Allygen Lh(S), 6 Lh(S), 1 Bge(F)

Command 3 – Sgen Cv(S), 2 Cv(O), 2 Hd(O), 10 Cv(S)

Command 4 – C-in-C Cv(S), 3 El(O), 4 Ax(S), 6Hd(O)

Command 5 – Sgen Cv(S), 4 Kn(X), 5 Cv(S), 1 Cv(O), 8 Ps(O)